Posts by just n from bethel

today i added a new article onto my blog addressing an aspect of watchtowers doctrinal presentation on blood that is more often than not overlooked for its significance, which is tremendous.

you can read the details in the article blood what happened at watchtower in 1945?

just n from bethel

I had a relative that died in the 50s, and at least part of it, if not all of it, was due to refusal of blood based on WT doctrine.

I don't know for sure but I get the impression that there was a time when disfellowshipping wasn't the fear tactic it was today. People really believed that this was God's law. There wasn't this discussion about whether one would get disfellowshipped but whether or not one would be eternally condemned by God.

Today, medical technology could have possibly prevented the death (it was during childbirth) without blood. But back then, less was known about stopping bleeding and C-section alternatives, etc.

Now the ironic thing, is that had this death been prevented by my relative not refusing blood, I may not have even been born - because that would have set off a very different butterfly effect set of events.

I think back then, people trusted that their decisions, if in line with watchtower, were also in line with god. But also, as seen by some responses to the watchtower in 1945, others seemed to rely on their own understanding of the bible - even if it wasn't in line with the watchtower. Perhaps so many were in disagreement with this that in 1961 they had to "clamp down" as it were and enforce people's conscience with fear tactic of disfellowshipping.

After all, you had people literally dying for this, how did the surviving family members feel about someone that ignored the WT policy and lived? I wonder if that had some influence. One thing for sure, Watchtower really likes it when people die for their doctrine. It really is the ultimate endorsement to them.

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The Gentile Times Reconsidered

by Spade in

disproving the date 1914 as a significant year in bible prophecy is of great importance to some (e.g.

carl o. jonsson).

along with the meticulous details of bible and secular chronology, broadening one's horizons when assessing exactly what this date represents when compared against the 6000 years of human history likewise has merit.

just n from bethel

"showing the total fulfillment of every prophecy Jehovah gave us."

does that include the desolation of Egypt for 40 years? I mean if I were god, and wanted people to believe the Bible was my communication to them - I would have made sure that everything I wrote had undeniable proof of fulfillment.

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Spokane Newspaper-Spokesman-Review: Official who assigned abusive priests charged

by AndersonsInfo in

february 12, 2011 in nation/worldofficial who assigned abusive priests chargedcatholic district attorney goes higher up hierarchical ladderassociated press the spokesman-review photolynn.

philadelphia nearly a decade after the scandal over sexual abuse by priests erupted, philadelphias district attorney has taken a step no prosecutor in the u.s. had taken before: filing criminal charges against a high-ranking roman catholic official for allegedly failing to protect children.i love my church, said district attorney seth williams, himself a catholic, but i detest the criminal behavior of priests who abuse or allow the abuse of children.. williams announced charges thursday against three priests, a parochial school teacher and monsignor william lynn, who as secretary of the clergy was one of the top officials in the philadelphia archdiocese from 1992 to 2004.. the three priests and the teacher were charged with raping boys.

lynn, 60, was accused not of molesting children but of endangering them.

just n from bethel

What stands out most to me - is that the guy pressing this issue, the DA, is himself a catholic. I didn't see anything about the catholic church excommunicating him. Nor did I see anything about the catholic DA's family shunning him for bringing this scandal to the public. I'm sure some of the higher ups would like to see this get brushed under the rug, and they're likely working ways in which this can be done. But it does not appear that they're doing it by trying to tell catholics around the world that the DA is a catholic apostate - or is just bitter and has left behind his spirituality and no longer worships in truth.

Nope, to date, I have never heard of one JW attorney representing the JW abuse victims. Isn't that ironic?

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I got this email

by Iamallcool in

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usa today map & jehovah's witnesses.........??.

jehovah's witnesses are now large enough to have a separate listing on the breakout of american religions.

no more 'other' category for us!?.

just n from bethel

Amazing how big the narrow and cramped road has gotten.

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About the Adam and Eve time gap....

by Lozhasleft in

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what's got me a bit befuddled is this.... when eve was created she was physically perfect right?

and apparently god blessed them which counted as a marriage.

so....that means that satan's deception of eve must have been almost immediate?....because being perfect she would have conceived virtually straight away, surely?

just n from bethel

I couldn't even finish reading CyberJesus' replies. I was laughing so hard I snarted.

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A roaring current of change.... Is The Watchtower in the process of a major overhaul of their religion?

by koolaid-man in

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a roaring current of change..... what is going on at the world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses?

in the last couple of years unprecedented changes in policy, procedure, and doctrine have been coming forth in rapid fire sequence.

this uninterrupted episode of new information is beginning to backfire for the rank and file witnesses.

just n from bethel

Farkel, Villa, and Shamus all I can say is:

ditto